Intel ALder Lake 12900K, 12600K, & 12700K CPU Specs, Price, & Release Date

intel’s really getting into gear on november 4th intel will be launching it to alder lake cpus we have these specs and the pricing of the first cpus in that lineup for you this is intel’s first big attempt by our look at it anyway of responding to amd’s ryzen cpu since about the 8700k it’s been pretty boring since then and there’s been a lot of wastes of sand from both parties but especially intel mixed in in the last few years alder lake is a lot different though it’s a massive architectural change this could go two ways extremely well they could end up very competitive or it could go poorly depending on how well things like thread scheduling work out for the more complicated core layout of alder lake today we’re going to be talking about the specs the pricing the release date and some other information give you a bit more of our thoughts on how this will all work out before that this video is brought to you by squarespace we use squarespace for our own gn store and juggle complex multi-piece orders all the time with it squarespace makes it fast for us to roll out new products with detailed pages full of galleries videos and descriptors it’s also useful for your own resume sites for photographer or project portfolios or for starting your new small business idea there’s never been a better time to try and start your new business than right now and we can vouch that squarespace makes it easy visit gamersnexus to get 10 off your first purchase with squarespace so we’ve already gone over the architecture in a separate video that went up a while ago it hasn’t changed the only information that’s really new today is again price specs release date we’re going to go

through all that architecture the biggest difference as a very quick recap is that intel now has performance cores and efficient cores so this is very different from the traditional sort of one type of core that’s focused on one type of thin design that intel has traditionally used amd very recently did a five years of zen video where it recommitted to sticking with its existing chiplet and single zen type of core design stating that basically yes we know people do big and little cores like an android but we’re not going to do that amd is sticking with what it does now with the zen architecture intel is obviously what amd is referring to until going the opposite direction mixing two types of course so we have a piece on that not gonna go through it all again it’s the same check it out in the link in the description below patrick stone on our team wrote most of that and uh he has a computer engineering background so he did a great job analyzing it and really explaining it breaking it out in detail if you want to learn something about computers in general but also about intel’s processors so that’ll be there getting straight into the specs then this is the important part today spec’s pricing release date november 4th is the release date unfortunately intel has decided to lift the reviews embargo the time at which reviews can go live at the same time as the products going for sale so that’s great now if you think you might want to buy it you’re basically just going to have to buy it and then if you watch the reviews after you buy it you’ll either need to convince yourself that you made the right choice by posting a comment on everyone’s review saying how wrong they are if in fact it didn’t work out in favor of the cpu you bought or you’ll have to cancel the order if you don’t like it so we actually genuinely don’t know how it’s going to perform yet we haven’t done the testing yet so this isn’t me being coy or anything but the fact of the matter is that typically you want to see reviews go up at least a little bit ahead of a launch um so that people have some time to make an informed decision especially in a market where they’re all going to sell

anyway because then all intel’s really doing is creating a scenario where people are gonna buy it in a panic because it’s gonna get scalped otherwise or whatever and then they’ll be upset if they’re not happy with it so allowing people that extra time to make the informed decision isn’t really to hurt sales here because they’re all going to sell but anyway that’s a weird read of the market by intel uh so into the specs intel announced the 12 900k and kf no word yet on the popular kfc sku we know of at least one customer that would be very interested in these but haven’t heard from intel about them there’s also the 12 700 k and kf and a 12 600 k and kf and that’s what they have for now if you’re not aware the k and the kf sku so k just means unlocked it means you can overclock it with certain motherboards anyway and then f means that it has no igp so there’s no integrated graphics processor in a kf model that is a cost saving measure if you’re not going to need it for troubleshooting quick sync or something else uh in additional ways that intel is saying f skew the pricing was announced as a big f sku so uh the first f sku is 564 that’s the 12 900 kf sku from intel there’s the 12 900k non-f for 589 now talking with patrick before filming this we’ve come to the conclusion that since it has both p cores and e cores really it’s two processors so you’re getting a great deal there at least that’s how we would spend it if we worked at intel the 12700k 409 dollars is maybe a little bit

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more typical but still a little bit on the high side not nearly as bad though the 1200 kf 384 is getting close to normality now 12 600k is in a better spot 289 or 264 for the kf so the 12 600 we do have a bit of hope for as a competitor to the 5600x because the 5600x launched at 300 it’s more or less been at 300 occasionally plus or minus 40 depending on active deals things like that so this should hopefully be a good competitor to the 5600x there was a leak of some benchmarks about the 12400 intel has not officially discussed the 12 400 or confirmed its existence at this time that we’re aware of uh at least not in the most recent past briefing and from the leaks it looks like maybe that’s a good competitor to the 5600x at much lower pricing 100 less or more depending on how it launches and the 1000 unit uh pricing that’s what all these are by the way they’re 1 000 unit pricing typically you can expect to spend a little bit more than the numbers i’ve just read off depending on from whom you’re buying the cpu and what volume they move they might get better deals get you closer to 1k unit pricing but if it’s from a smaller retailer definitely expect to pay more than that so so far at some of these tiers there’s we have a little bit of cautious hope or optimism maybe for some competition at different price points 12 900 is kind of brutal though even without looking at i don’t need to see the performance to know that that is very expensive and that there’s price creep in the high end just across the industry but uh 12 6 is looking more promising so hopefully we’ll be able to look at that for the reviews from the spec sheet the first thing that we learned is how intel is marketing its core account this was a big question for us and it’s marketing it by adding them intel listed the 12900k as being a 16 core cpu which is maybe technically true but based on today’s marketing it will be minimally confusing or

maximally disingenuous if listed without specificity of the distribution of cores it’d be sort of like listing bulldozer as an 8 core cpu except for one critical difference intel here is specifying that it’s an eight performance core and a efficient core design so they’re doing the right thing if however you see just 16 cores in a spec sheet somewhere we would disagree strongly it needs the distribution marked anyway the 12 900k is eight performance and eight efficient the 12.7 is eight performance and four efficient that’s the only change in the core uh layout the 12 600k is six performance and four efficient and intel has one other line item in its spec as well and that’s for the total processor threats this is where we see that all three of these cpus are hyper threaded on the p cores in terms of what this actually means obviously the reviews will look at that once we can get all the cpus in any way uh clock for clock or hard spec for spec we would anticipate that the 12 900 k and the 12 700 k would be very similar in performance or performance core bound applications that would be most of them you’re used to at least the ones that matter like gaming uh high-end production workloads like video editing photoshop things of that nature but that’s not

too different from what we saw from the 11900k and the 11700k if it’s true where the 11900k proved to actually be impressively the biggest waste of silicon we’ve seen since the amd xt cpus and before that the elisa sue edition 2700x however intel still has a chance we hope that it comes out with a pat gelsinger edition of its 12 900k and we hope that the ihs simply says the word leadership right across it his favorite word okay so there are some other differences aside from the cores the 12 900k runs more cash at 30 megabytes l3 and 14 megabytes l2 compared to the 25 megabytes l3 and 12 megabytes l2 on the 1200k this alongside frequency uplift boosting maximally 200 megahertz higher will be what sets the 12 900k apart at least somewhat in performance-bound workloads from the 12700k its efficiency core bound capabilities should theoretically be better but we’re really not sure yet not until we can test it a couple hundred megahertz here and there it does have a little bit of an impact but it’s not typically worth hundreds of dollars the cash impacts see it in a couple workloads you might see it in compiling for example more noticeably uh you’ll see it in some games but it’s that performance core count that’s really what will matter the most for

the most part and given that they’re the same we’ll see we’ll see how worth it the 12 900k is over the 12.7 what intel samples to media will also be very telling as to what it believes will be received to the best although in the past it hasn’t sampled some of its best parts so not necessarily italian anyway we won’t know until we can test it firmly and we’ll have a review for that but we do suspect that eighth efficient versus four efficient might not matter a whole lot in scenarios where you’re playing a game or something and you have some other applications on your second monitor off to the side because those applications might be like twitch or youtube or whatever an extra for efficient cores maybe doesn’t matter so much if all it’s doing is keeping some music open discord playing a video or something of that nature so the e core frequency does differ as well it’s by 100 megahertz between the top two or by a noteworthy 300 megahertz favoring the 12 700k for the base frequency with uh bad scheduling it’s feasible that a 12700k could outperform the e-core performance of the 12-900k and some applications that’s really going to come down to scheduling windows linux whatever os you have though the 12600k drops another 100 megahertz on boost and 200 megahertz off of e-core boost the base e core frequency however is higher as is the p core frequency base by another 100 megahertz over the 12 700 k cache size drops a bit more noticeably here as well for the 12 600 k the 12 600 k is really what’s going to matter for intel in terms of pricing intel has to line itself up to compete with the 5600x and 5800x which have been what amd’s been pushing the most of since they launched these cpus despite being maybe the least exciting but it’s the one that it’s had very high availability of so intel has to compete there 12 400 will be

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important we’ve seen some leaks of it and of performance if the leaks or benchmarks are to be believed that would compare to a 5600 x which would be more expensive by about 100 plus dollars than the 12 400 but that’s not confirmed by intel at this time and obviously we would want to confirm it as well with testing so that’s yet to be determined as for memory memory support is changing so ddr5 has been introduced we talked about this pcie gen 5 ddr5 we talked about in the previous intel alder lake specs and architecture video but at a harder specs level for product that’s coming out uh the memory support is ddr5 4800 ddr4 3200 on the intel alder like skus that have been announced today as are an important reminder for how this works first of all ddr4 and ddr5 are physically different they will not or should not be made to sock it into the other’s socket if you try to force ddr5 into four you could probably succeed but it will very very likely not work anymore at least the board if not also the memory so they are physically different do not try to install one of the others just like ddr3 and iv just pretend they’re totally different things entirely uh so that aside they are both listed in the support list we’re going to explain how this works in case you don’t know the cpu the chipset and the motherboard all have different sets of support for different technologies that have to be compatible at

some level so when you talk about pcie lanes available on a product sometimes very frequently people get confused and it’s totally valid to get confused by this by the way it took me a little while many years ago but a little while to really understand it so the basics of how it works the cpu has its own lanes for pcie graphics it has some lanes for something like a primary m.2 device it’s got some lanes for maybe wireless devices uh and things of that nature the chipset then carries additional hsio lanes on intel so the pch runs hs high speed io hsio lanes where those to some extent can be apportioned out by motherboard manufacturers so you can assign some say four to an extra m.2 slot and maybe those are gen 3 or gen 4 depending on the chipset generation you can assign another four of them over to sata or something like that you can assign some to 10 gigabit ethernet some two and a half gigabit ethernet whatever so those hsio lanes are available in higher counts based on the higher end chipsets typically not always but normally so d590 versus something like uh a b400 series motherboard

you’re going to have some chipset hsio lane differences and that’s where the big change comes other than bio support for things like overclocking so coming back to the memory support the cpu list too that doesn’t mean you can use them both at once uh in the past for ddr4 and three there was a switchover period where a couple of intel boards specifically there’s a biostar one that we tested at the time had ddr3 and ddr4 slots both on the motherboard you could not and this is true with alderley as well use both of them at the same time you could choose one but you couldn’t use both the only reason these boards were really interesting or useful was because they allowed an easier like for like comparison in all aspects except for the memory so if you were really curious about doing a memory comparison you could do it but it meant you got two dimms per technology so you could do two ddr3 two ddr4 and in this instance if one of those types of boards come out it’ll be the same thing i’m not aware of any right now maybe someone will make one as sort of a fun frankenstein science experiment they’ve never been particularly useful though aside from doing controlled testing but for actual use you’re better off with just four slots of the same type because again you can’t mix and match four and five if they are both present on the motherboard you will only be able to use one set of slots and that’s a giant question mark too because we don’t even know if any board makers are gonna do that this time so anyway you can run both technologies uh which one you use will come down to the motherboard when you are shopping for motherboards pay attention to the memory technology the slot that’s on it make sure you buy based on what you want to use if you want to buy new and use ddr5 match that up if you want to use some of your old memory to save some money try and find a ddr4 board we’ll look more at

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motherboards in the future though today we’re focused on the cpus so that’s kind of the basics of how that works uh recapping ddr5 physically incompatible with ddr4 and then be aware of what slot you’re choosing on the motherboard finally for memory there are two memory channels for all three of these cpus and for the entire platform so max you get a dual channel out of anything pcie generations igp specs some other minor details here all three of the cpus and their fsku variant announced today we’ll have 16 pcie gen 5 cpu to pg lanes so that’ll be your pcie graphics no gpus at the moment in the consumer market support pcie gen five and so you’re not gonna benefit from this today maybe in the future but typically we’re pretty far ahead on pcie generations versus what’s really be able to be extracted from the interface anyway uh pcie gen4 all these cvs will be running four gen four lanes for m.2 devices and then for the igp specs it’s 1550 megahertz igp max for the 12.9 series it’s 1 500 igp max for the 12.7 and then it’s 1450 megahertz igp max for the 12 600 series of cpus announced today uh they’re miscellaneous other technologies they are all enabled equally though um not too important to go over but it’s it’s typical uh massive list of alphabet soup intel technologies that they have on there and finally the chipset we already detailed this in our architecture piece to some extent hasn’t changed so the chipset block diagram we do have that we’ll put that back up on the screen now it’s probably showing up a few times already but the chipset shows that we can do off the cpu two by eight pcie gen five so if you’re running envy link or crossfire or something you could do that still the chipset will have eight dmi 4.0 lanes the cpu there will be 12 pcie gen 4 lanes off of the chipset maximally 16 pcie gen 3 lanes those can be mapped again to individual pcie slots of varying lengths up to the motherboards or they can be mapped to other high-speed devices that can use pcie there’ll be eight sata six gigabit per second lanes that number is decreasing over time now which makes sense there’s a big massive mess of usb we’ll put that on the screen thanks usbif for the naming and making it illegible but we’ll put those up there now as well and there’s built-in two

and a half gigabit ethernet along with some other internet technologies so that covers the most important stuff for the announcement today there is more detail but it’s not really worth getting into at this point if you want architecture information we have video on that you’ve got product information here and then if you want performance information we’ll save that for a review intel did pass around some slides with performance expectations of how it thinks it will land versus amd with its own testing intel has also proven enough to us in the past when it contracted principal technologies that we can’t really trust its testing data and then also it went on this whole big anti-benchmarks thing for about a year or two so we’re not going to bother showing their benchmark numbers because intel spent a few years dismissing benchmark numbers we’ll just do our own and present those to you once the cpu is launched so looking forward to testing it it’s going to be very complicated to test if we want to look at the e core and peak or combined performance it’s not quite as simple as it normally is with just one type of core so that will take some work and there’ll probably be a lot of follow-ups from us and everyone else who’s reviewing these things as we all figure out how to work with it uh because there’s a limited time window before launch and then you normally need to do some follow-ups so keep an eye out for all that as always subscribe for more you can go to store.

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